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House alarm

PostPosted: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 8:03 +0000
by robmx5
Folks,

Anyone know a trustworthy individual in the house alarm business ?

or

Also anyone ever install a wireless house alarm ?

Cheers

Spideog

Re: House alarm

PostPosted: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 8:18 +0000
by sidewaysreilly
SURE DO IF HE STILL DOES THEM, WHERE ABOUTS ARE YOU

Re: House alarm

PostPosted: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 8:07 +0000
by leamyj
Careful robin, I think it's illegal to have someone install an alarm as a "nixer" similar to having someone not registered work on your gas, certification from the ISIA will be needed by your insurance company. I do know a guy from the northside all the same, wouldn't be too far from yourself.

John

Re: House alarm

PostPosted: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:38 +0000
by fabfiveferg
leamyj wrote:Careful robin, I think it's illegal to have someone install an alarm as a "nixer"



Really? Illegal? Why would it be illegal. Ill advised possibly but illegal seems harsh

Re: House alarm

PostPosted: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:47 +0000
by CashelMX5
It's illegal because the job MUST be certified by licenced iperator. It could, if not certified, also affect your insurance . This law was brought in to protect home owners from dubious lado's offering their services. However, strange as it may seem, you can install your own system and the wireless type is very straight-forward to install.

Re: House alarm

PostPosted: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 2:42 +0000
by Stig

Yeah, it would invalidate your insurace in the event of a claim if not done by a certified co.
I used to get a mate to alarm my houses in the past, but had to call on a dedicated alarm co since the new rules.
Puma alarms did my install, very good rate and excellent service.
I remember when we moved into this house, we were just moving in on a Friday and flying out to Chicago on a trip the following Monday and needed our house alarmed/protected immediately. When I called them, they came out the same day, agreed a price there and then and installed within 3 days, so our new home was AOK whilst we were away.
They were neat,tidy,courteous and never had an issue.
Puma - 05786 65566 or 087 8119656
They are based in Portloaise but cover Dublin.
No affiliation just good experience of em' :wink:

Hth's

Re: House alarm

PostPosted: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:10 +0000
by Steve
Maplins, wireless alarm bits (a mix of shock/magnetic/motion sensors), a phone dialler (to ring/txt you when it goes off), job done.

http://maplin.co.uk/Search.aspx?criteria=house%20alarm%20wireless&source=15

Wireless cameras in the eaves can be handy too.

Re: House alarm

PostPosted: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:19 +0000
by CashelMX5
Neat bit of kit, price looks very good and think of the savings on installation costs. :lol:

Re: House alarm

PostPosted: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 2:24 +0000
by voomvoom
Fitted a yale wireless system to my gaff 3 years ogo & to my mothers last year. Its easy enough and compares well on features such as tel dialer (prefer if this was simm and not on the fixed tel line as too easily cut but same set up as eircom use ) excellent smoke alarm. It can be set/reset and interrogated remotely etc. More importantly neither of the systems have given any nuisance false alarms unlike several of my neighbours who got so called professional guys in. The biggest prob was price as the basic sys only included 2 pirs & 2 door contacts and each additional was @€35. So with smoke alarms and extra pirs i ran to @ €550. My house ins is under 400 without alarm so i couldn't see point in telling them to get a tiny discount and offer them a get out . Oh I got me some back up ...a very friendly 45 kg (and growing) bernese dog who DONT like strangers.

Re: House alarm

PostPosted: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 8:32 +0000
by robmx5
Thanks again lads - few ideas here - might consider the diy job in the future if the quote to sort my current problem is too excessive

Spideog

Re: House alarm

PostPosted: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:11 +0000
by shenab
DaStig wrote:
Yeah, it would invalidate your insurace in the event of a claim if not done by a certified co.


Stig, where does it say this in the legislation? Surely then all anyone has to say is it was a DIY job to be covered?

just curious really, I know you have insider info on this!

Re: House alarm

PostPosted: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 1:29 +0000
by fabfiveferg
[quote="shenab Surely then all anyone has to say is it was a DIY job to be covered?

just curious really, I know you have insider info on this![/quote]

Would a DIY job not invalidate as well? This is hard to follow :roll: It's not as though I can give myself a certificate of smashingness or whatever they want

Re: House alarm

PostPosted: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 2:14 +0000
by shenab
From my reading of the legislation you can fit your own alarm no problems without breaking the law.

If you hire a "man who can" you can be prosecuted, as can he unless he(she) is certified!

As for the insurance companies who knows. When I was getting quotes I was asked do I have an alarm fitted .. not do I have an alarm that conforms to NSAI spec blah blah or ISO xxxx or was installed by a PSA certified installer .. as it was installed prior to this legislation.

I suspect they can do/say as they want. Its open to interpretation and I would say the insurance companies would have small print specifying that it ha to be installed maintained by a certified company .. I don't really know .. hence my question to DaStig!

Just curious really. I guess you just say you don't have an alarm in this case?

Re: House alarm

PostPosted: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 2:55 +0000
by Stig
It's all about disclosure.

If you have a DIY fitted alarm and disclosed you had an alarm when you took out the policy, in the event of a claim, they could ask for a cert to prove it was a certified install by a registered installed etc. It's all about as you righly say, the small print whcih is a pain in the rocks to read, but read we must!
Honest declarations are always best, even if you have to spend a few extra bob for the policy because they'll try each avenue to worm their way out of shelling out in the event of a claim.

Re: House alarm

PostPosted: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:17 +0000
by robmx5
It would appear voomvoom may have the best solution - DIY - inform them you have no alarm and bring the dog to the vet to have his teeth sharpened !!

Spideog