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Battery problems..

PostPosted: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 2:56 +0000
by Steve
My car has been playing the "will I or won't I start" game since mid Dec (my cold start settings aren't helping though), this morning it wouldn't start without a jump after sitting since last Wed. Have tried trickle charging the battery etc but the ooomph is gone out of it so time for a new one.

Did a bit of shopping around, prices for a Westco sealed battery (incl delivery) :

www.MX5Parts.co.uk : 96.92 GBP = 110.722 EUR
www.ilmotorsport.de : 129.87 EUR
www.autolinkmx5.com : 118.64 GBP = 135.530 EUR
www.moss.co.uk : 108.548 EUR
www.tayna.co.uk : 94.71 GBP = 108.183 EUR
www.alpha-batteries.co.uk : 110 GBP
Local Mazda Dealer : Don't stock them.. ("ah I tell ye now, t'would taaake at laayst a week if not long-er, its all down to regulaaahyshon and dat type a thing, besht to ring one a de motor factors, thats the way most of 'em are goin' now jeh'know?").

Found this sealed maintenance free battery and decided to give it a go instead :
http://www.tayna.co.uk/048-Numax-Car-Battery-P983.html
62.30 GBP = 71.1859 EUR
3yr Guarantee + its 45Ah vs the Westco's 31Ah.

Will see how it goes.

Re: Battery problems..

PostPosted: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 3:11 +0000
by anniniwa
Ahhh damn, jsut when I bought one from MX5 parts!!!!!! :( :(

I rang our local Mazda dealer and guess how much.....I mean seriously €175!!! and they would have to order it in.

Is this the same battery;
http://cgi.ebay.ie/Westco-Battery-Honda ... 2303e00692

Re: Battery problems..

PostPosted: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 3:51 +0000
by Steve

Re: Battery problems..

PostPosted: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 4:47 +0000
by CashelMX5
Hi Steve,

I've been having the same problem -if I leave the car for a few days, no go. I had battery checked and its showing 100% and I was told that its just the freezing weather. If I turn it over evary day its OK!

Re: Battery problems..

PostPosted: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 7:05 +0000
by Steve
Yeah, mine was testing fine on the multimeter but it was 6 degrees this morning and wouldn't catch. If its draining it in a week, it needs changed. I'd prob jump it off the pack until it warms further if it was just me but I've the young lad with me in the mornings so can't leave him sitting in the cold while I do jump start gymnastics (he thinks its hilarious tho').

Re: Battery problems..

PostPosted: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 8:20 +0000
by sidewaysreilly
how many volts tho?????

Re: Battery problems..

PostPosted: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 8:43 +0000
by barney
started mine today for the first time since xmas--- no problem. new battery bought because one in situ is too big for tray and sitting at an angle and held in place with cable ties. :bom: :bom:

Re: Battery problems..

PostPosted: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 11:10 +0000
by Steve
sidewaysreilly wrote:how many volts tho?????


Do you mean, how many volts did I read? 14v-ish AFAIR.

Re: Battery problems..

PostPosted: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 11:33 +0000
by anniniwa
Thank God, new battery arrived from MX5 parts this evening, putting it in tomorrow...fingers crossed there is nothing else wrong. :D :D

Just a note that came with it;

Never use a boost or electronic charger. Only ever use a 2-3 amp trickle charger, or charger specific to gel batteries. Standard chargers from Halfords will not charge this battery and possibly cause seriouse damage.

If battery goes flat, do not believe AA or RAC etc that the battery is at fault. The equipment they use is not suitable for gel batteries.

Recommend a 3-5 day trickle charge in winter.

Now I know most of u prob know this already but I certainly didn't, had been trying to re-charge old battery for 24 hours using electric battery charger before the forum advised a trickler.

Re: Battery problems..

PostPosted: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 11:35 +0000
by franksm
Yeah, Ann, hence my chat about the Optimate 3 chargers - think they trickle at less than an amp. Very slow, but the gel batteries love it.

Re: Battery problems..

PostPosted: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 11:43 +0000
by anniniwa
franksm wrote:Yeah, Ann, hence my chat about the Optimate 3 chargers - think they trickle at less than an amp. Very slow, but the gel batteries love it.


Exactly Frank, thanks for ur advice...guess it was too late though think I had done more damage electronically boosting it but I'm definately going to get one of those Optimates before next winter.

MX5 parts actually recommend the Accumate, but enough spent with them for the time being. :(

Re: Battery problems..

PostPosted: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 1:02 +0000
by paulie1981
anniniwa wrote:Ahhh damn, jsut when I bought one from MX5 parts!!!!!! :( :(

I rang our local Mazda dealer and guess how much.....I mean seriously €175!!! and they would have to order it in.


I made the same enquiry Ann, and it's not a sealed battery. Just one that fits. There was a sticker on my old battery which clearly stated that this battery would not be available through your dealer!

Re: Battery problems..

PostPosted: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 2:15 +0000
by Steve
is it a panasonic by any chance?

Re: Battery problems..

PostPosted: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 4:01 +0000
by paulie1981
srigley wrote:is it a panasonic by any chance?



Yep, mine was

Re: Battery problems..

PostPosted: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 4:13 +0000
by Steve
wonder if its the original battery then..