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by Steve » Sun, 29 Mar 2009 10:53 +0000
Hi Niall,
Eunos here too I'm afraid, sold my "Irish spec" car a few years ago.
Has Mazda Motor Ireland changed their "it must be a registered club before we get involved" stance? It would be great if they have and could help us out in some way with the Isle of Man trip in June.
Also, in regards to the parts/service issues (you can see its a big issue with the group), is there a contact within Mazda Motor Ireland we could voice these problems to? A very quick/easy change to your VIN database code by the IT dept could link volunteered Eunos VINs to a common Irish car's VIN and solve 99% of these issues. It would benefit both us (local parts) and yourselves (revenue).
Thanks, Steve
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by Ivan » Sun, 29 Mar 2009 11:18 +0000
ger wrote:In my opinion, we should not cooperate, what have they done for us? Just a thought!
I agree. I have only found rude and unhelpful service from Mazda Ireland and when I was forced to buy parts from them they were a rip-off and I could only get the parts when I used a chassis no. from a similar Irish reg'd car. The last time I made a parts enquiry they never called back that was 9 months ago. They should contact mx5 Parts for a lesson in customer service. Let them do something for the club first. Ger
Well i think you are all a bit foolish with that attuide. Here we have Mazda Ireland contacting our group (not official club) looking for help and you lot are telling him to go away. Would we not be better helping the guy out, in the process building up communications and a relationship with mazada. So the next time we have difficulities we have someone in there who can help us out. Ger we are not an official club so you can't expect a company just to had over a cheque. They would have to have an invoice for the accounts and we would have to have insurance etc for any events. Dare i say it but should we consider setting up a "soft club" if mazda wanted to get involved. Niall, why don't mazda just go and buy an irish spec car? Ivan
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by Stig » Sun, 29 Mar 2009 12:07 +0000
Ivan,
We already met with mazda last Autumn offically and nothing happened as Mazda wanted nothing to happen citing no money etc, downturn etc etc. So, being a club does'nt matter. Why form an official club when the marque's maker does'nt want to be part of what we do?
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by MX5Steve » Sun, 29 Mar 2009 12:59 +0000
I have to say If there was an official club in Ireland, I would join, and I have absolutely no problem in saying so. It doesn't mean you can't be involved in this "club". Does it?
But......
It has to be said to those concerned "Mazda" that owning a jap import and looking for parts in dealerships is not a good experience for most if any Eunos owners.
This club is free to join and an open forum to particiapte or not. Those who wish to talk to Niall, or Not should be allowed to do so.....
Just my 2 cents:)
Niall what are Mazda planning for the Anniversary, you said there may be something we can all get involved in ,if we wish!
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by Stig » Sun, 29 Mar 2009 2:01 +0000
MX5 Steve wrote:This club is free to join and an open forum to particiapte or not. Those who wish to talk to Niall, or Not should be allowed to do so.....
Agreed, tho' no one said no one can't! I'm confused over the whole jap import allergicness Correct me if I'm wrong but the only visual difference from a oirish/uk spec 5' is the rear number plate panel and maybe the front badge........apart from that - whats the difference from a photoshoot point of view? Like are yis looking specificially for rear shots of a 5, cos' an Eunos from the front is just the same to me. The only member I can think of with a mx5 to suit might be Frank? Anyone else?
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by mx5ash » Sun, 29 Mar 2009 6:30 +0000
Hi Niall, Sadly I too have not had a great experience with a Mazda dealership as i have an import. I wanted a nut for the top of a Bilstein shock but as it was an import they had to get onto parts department in Japan before they would even contemplate selling it to me. Surly something could be done about this as Steve said earlier. I mean at the end of a day a nut is a nut and as all the cars came off the same production line i can't see there being any difference between Irish cars and imports. Anyway was thinking today that maybe the current stories of insurance companies being unwilling to touch imports with a shitty stick has something to do with Mazda dealerships and the fact that they make it harder to source parts for them (that and the cost) with the end result of imports being written off for minor damage as uneconomical to repair. Just a thought.
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by gunners5 » Sun, 29 Mar 2009 7:01 +0000
Unfortunately this is becoming a bit of a Mazda Ireland bashing but, all main dealers are arrogant and usually unhelpful, it was the unreal wealth and growth in which the motor industry experienced during the boom times that made them that way. I just think its a little harsh they dont want to include Euni's as they are all part of the design and engineering masterpiece that is a Mazda MX5 and it would be great to see some of the guys cars honouring and celebrating its 20th birthday as there is some very nice examples that belong to members of this group of enthusists.
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by leamyj » Sun, 29 Mar 2009 7:06 +0000
mx5ash wrote:Hi Niall, Sadly I too have not had a great experience with a Mazda dealership as i have an import. I wanted a nut for the top of a Bilstein shock but as it was an import they had to get onto parts department in Japan before they would even contemplate selling it to me. Surly something could be done about this as Steve said earlier. I mean at the end of a day a nut is a nut and as all the cars came off the same production line i can't see there being any difference between Irish cars and imports. Anyway was thinking today that maybe the current stories of insurance companies being unwilling to touch imports with a shitty stick has something to do with Mazda dealerships and the fact that they make it harder to source parts for them (that and the cost) with the end result of imports being written off for minor damage as uneconomical to repair. Just a thought.
Ash, I reckon you may have hit the nail on the head there with your assessment of the apparent reason for insurance companies refusing to cover jap imports, but surely it's not only mazda imports that are affected..or is it??
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by Ivan » Sun, 29 Mar 2009 8:39 +0000
DaStig wrote:Ivan,
We already met with mazda last Autumn offically and nothing happened as Mazda wanted nothing to happen citing no money etc, downturn etc etc. So, being a club does'nt matter. Why form an official club when the marque's maker does'nt want to be part of what we do?
I wasn't aware that was the case ollie, i was let to believe it was because we where not an official club. just had a look again, fifth post down, you did say about no money but also about not being a club. Which i though was the main reason viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1281&start=0
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by ger » Sun, 29 Mar 2009 8:43 +0000
Here we have Mazda Ireland contacting our group (not official club) looking for help and you lot are telling him to go away.
Come on Ivan, This is about PR for Mazda. This is the only reason Niall is on the forum. Or did I miss the time he came on offering a 10% 'group' discount. No invoice required for that. As far as doing something for the 'group' is concerned it could be done through a third party, a dyno day or track day would spring to mind, Mazda could cover the cost, send a photographer and do a press release. Niall, why don't Mazda just go and buy an Irish spec car?
Now that's the spirit Ivan, except you left out a few words between 'just' and 'go' Will the 'club' issue be rearing it's ugly head again? Ger
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by Ivan » Sun, 29 Mar 2009 8:59 +0000
ger wrote:Here we have Mazda Ireland contacting our group (not official club) looking for help and you lot are telling him to go away.
Come on Ivan, This is about PR for Mazda. This is the only reason Niall is on the forum. Or did I miss the time he came on offering a 10% 'group' discount. No invoice required for that. As far as doing something for the 'group' is concerned it could be done through a third party, a dyno day or track day would spring to mind, Mazda could cover the cost, send a photographer and do a press release. Niall, why don't Mazda just go and buy an Irish spec car?
Now that's the spirit Ivan, except you left out a few words between 'just' and 'go' Will the 'club' issue be rearing it's ugly head again? Ger
Good suggestions Ger, but you are not going to get anywhere by shutting the door in his face. He made no attempt to hide the fact it's for PR. there is no problem with that. I'm just saying a bit of common decency would not go astray if we could do a favour for him, i'm sure it will be returned. And if not, so what, it will be the good deed done for the year
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by ger » Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:16 +0000
Your probably right Ivan.
just stirring things up…
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by Cloggy » Mon, 30 Mar 2009 1:40 +0000
Hi people, I received a call from Richard earlier this week and it was I, who suggested to open this specific thread (note there is a D and not a T) on the forum. It's good to see some of us got to air their concerns, upset & issues and numerous probably agreed in silence, but I would like to suggest we approach such topics in a more structured fashion.
1st: Does anyone have the spec what Niall & Richard are looking for + interested to work along. Please call Richard.
2nd: I believe it's good to air a negative opinion, as long as it's followed by a constructive suggestion. Regression is the result of criticism without constructiveness. Stagnation is the result of a lack of ideas. Progress can only made through analysis of an issue and working towards a solution.
I feel the most beneficial goal for all parties on the unrelated topic is progression.
So let’s stick to the original thread and open an invitation to Niall and Richard to meet, share concerns, ideas and possibilities and ensure we all progress through constructive communication.
Well, that's what I think anyway...
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by leamyj » Mon, 30 Mar 2009 8:05 +0000
So Richard,sorry...Niall, we seem to have reached the end of the rant part of the thread, hope we haven't scared you off As you can see there is a level of dissatisfaction out there but we do remain loyal to the car, after all that's what got us all together. Hopefully someone in the club will be able to provide you with what you want, sorry I can't as mine is a Eunos too. Good luck with your quest and please keep in touch with the "club" as I feel there are future possibilities John
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by mx5mariner » Mon, 30 Mar 2009 8:01 +0000
Hi Niall
I have a pretty fresh MK1 1990 Mariner Blue Irish car. It's a fairly striking colour (not to everyone's taste)
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