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Postby Steve » Thu, 15 Jan 2009 11:51 +0000

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Postby Stig » Thu, 15 Jan 2009 3:02 +0000

ohhh dear..........hate scumbags. :evil:
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Postby franksm » Thu, 15 Jan 2009 8:44 +0000

Kryste... hope the scumbags that did that end up in serious pain some evening. Preferably with flames and ditches involved.

Sounds like that car didn't have an alarm/immobiliser. If I had a '5 without one, I would be quaking in my boots right now - the wires behind the ignition lock are almost designed to grip common paperclips, and you only need two of them to hotwire a '5. Ridiculously easy.
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Postby mark » Fri, 16 Jan 2009 3:23 +0000

out of interest lads , whats the better / best alarms to go for , starting to worry about my alarm as it kept going off in the strong winds the last few days , it could be hyper sensitive of just crap , but i don't wanna find out the hard way

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Postby franksm » Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:53 +0000

Maybe your alarm just needs adjusted ? If it has an internal sensor (not ultrasonic), there may be an adjustment screw on it.

Clifford is best, Mark, but pricey.

Whatever alarm you go for, it needs to include a microwave sensor for inside the cabin and not an ultrasonic sensor. The ultrasonics don't work well with soft-tops, and will forever be false-alarming. Microwaves can be adjusted so that the protective 'bubble' is just outside the fabric of the roof.

Some alarms have dual-zones too, which means one zone for giving warnings and a second zone for giving a full alarm.

As well as the microwave, the alarm should monitor the door/courtesy-light circuit, and should also have a shock sensor (may be separate, may be built in to the alarm box)

The alarm should have one or two immobilisers built in as well - one should interrupt the wire that lights up the dash and electronics and the other should interrupt the wire to the fuel-pump.

Nice thing about the Cliffords is that they also have an anti-hijack feature - if the doors open or you are yanked out of the car and is driven off, the engine will shut down 30 seconds later - with plenty of warning, the car lights up like a Christmas tree just before that :D
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Postby fabfiveferg » Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:45 +0000

franksm wrote:Nice thing about the Cliffords is that they also have an anti-hijack feature - if the doors open or you are yanked out of the car and is driven off, the engine will shut down 30 seconds later - with plenty of warning, the car lights up like a Christmas tree just before that :D


How does that work Frank? do you have a remote control. How does it know you've been reefed out of he car
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Postby franksm » Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:50 +0000

just when the doors open.

It means you have to type in your code every time you start the car or someone opens the doors though - you have 30 seconds to do that before it goes into anti-hijack mode; then 30 seconds after that it knocks the engine out when the brakes are on/engine is slowing
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Postby Steve » Fri, 16 Jan 2009 1:22 +0000

I installed a system recently on our Heep, the pager fob has an anti-hijack button on it to kill the car too, it avoids a "did I type in the code or ..?" issue ;-)
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Postby leamyj » Fri, 16 Jan 2009 1:53 +0000

Now I'm getting paranoid..I don't have mine alarmed but then mine is probably not as valuable ( in monetary terms) as some members' cars. Let's face it , what is an insurance company gonna pay out on the theft of a 1991 1.6 mx5, no mods as such? How much is one of these state of the art alarms gonna set me back?? In the "old" days I used to have a kill-switch fitted between the distributor and the coil, is it possible nowadays to do the same or do you run the risk of damaging the electronics??

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Postby Steve » Fri, 16 Jan 2009 2:00 +0000

Clifford are excellent!
http://tinyurl.com/8u68wk

Alternatively, this is v.good too,
http://tinyurl.com/7arcfy

Not difficult to install either, the wiring diagram might give you a heart attack when you first look at it but if you take one connector at a time you'll find you get through it easily enough.

Yup, a kill switch like that would work.. or on the fuel pump wire ..

No harm in a big chain around the seat base + steering wheel either ;-)
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Postby franksm » Fri, 16 Jan 2009 2:21 +0000

yeah, the Cliffords are about a grand. But any alarm is better than no alarm, especially the Falcon Steve showed - they're great.

Thing about the '5 is that it's practically the one car out there now that's the easiest to steal. Do a google for 'lucar connectors' as that's what the '5 uses for its ignition wires. They are great for holding paperclips ;-)

A killswitch would be sooooo easy to install. I would put it behind the seats, wired to the fuel pump (also behind the seats)
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Postby Steve » Fri, 16 Jan 2009 2:38 +0000

I've had v.good experiences with this one :
http://tinyurl.com/93bz5q

Great range of features, works very well (and the pager range/signal is better than the Falcon EVO4+ above).
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Postby mark » Fri, 16 Jan 2009 2:53 +0000

just checked with a crowd in dublin called aaa.systems
and for a starter clifford alarm pack comes in at 350euro but no microwave sensor they cost 750+ as a pack

think i'll look for the little screw to adjust mine first
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Postby Stig » Fri, 16 Jan 2009 2:55 +0000

I have a TOAD IMMOBILISER meself. :P

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Postby fabfiveferg » Fri, 16 Jan 2009 3:17 +0000

mark wrote:just checked with a crowd in dublin called aaa.systems
and for a starter clifford alarm pack comes in at 350euro but no microwave sensor they cost 750+ as a pack

think i'll look for the little screw to adjust mine first
:lol:

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:lol: I would too dude
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