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Sump drain thread

PostPosted: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 2:18 +0000
by notch000
Hi,

last time I did a oil service I noticed the sump plug thread was damaged from another service. Was not me anyways for once, I have my suspicions of one dodgy garage that I got it serviced in before. Anyways half a hexcoil came out of the sump, being a sunday night and needing to get going for work, I managed to get the sump nut to thread back in and half forgot about it since. My car is in storage right now and looks to have lost about 1L of oil through the sump plug.

Whats the best was around this ?? insert a new hex coil or dril and retread a size or tow up ??? what size do people recommend ?

Re: Sump drain thread

PostPosted: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 7:57 +0000
by Pops
https://ige.ie/114pc-oil-pan-thread-repair-kit/
Something like this might sort it out, how hard Is it to swap the sump I wonder

Re: Sump drain thread

PostPosted: Sat, 20 Apr 2019 11:20 +0000
by 93 Mk1
The first thing that comes to mind is as Pops mentioned, the sump itself - replacing the sump pan is probably the best fix. Although a helicoil done properly would probably be fine too.

Re: Sump drain thread

PostPosted: Sat, 20 Apr 2019 12:29 +0000
by notch000
im pretty sure thats an engine out job

Re: Sump drain thread

PostPosted: Sun, 21 Apr 2019 4:35 +0000
by 93 Mk1
notch000 wrote:im pretty sure thats an engine out job


Apparently it can be done in place but the subframe and an amount of other bits require removal. Either way, it's a pain by all accounts. Maybe that sump plug repair kit is the way to go !

Re: Sump drain thread

PostPosted: Sun, 21 Apr 2019 6:09 +0000
by Keadeen
Personally do not like to use helicoils on drain plugs, nor do I like to drill / tap sump (hard not to get metal filings into sump and potential for damage etc).
When I found myself in a similar position previously (where could not remove sump easily) then best to weld a nut on the outside as a whole lot less risky.

Re: Sump drain thread

PostPosted: Sun, 21 Apr 2019 6:56 +0000
by notch000
How does welding a nut on help ??

Re: Sump drain thread

PostPosted: Sun, 21 Apr 2019 9:35 +0000
by Keadeen
Welding a nut on the outside of the sump - onto, and centred to, the hole where the drain plug normally fits - allows you to create a new area with already present threads to fit the drain plug without having to:
a) remove sump (which would be preferred solution to either drill and tap new oversized hole for bigger drain plug, or replace altogether with a new sump)
b) no drilling / tapping with the risk of filings falling inward into the sump with the risk of going through the engine and doing damage

... end result is risk free... and if tidied up a bit with a grinder and a bit of black from a rattle can you'd be hard pushed to notice it.

Re: Sump drain thread

PostPosted: Mon, 22 Apr 2019 9:55 +0000
by 93 Mk1
That makes sense and sounds like a good idea.

Re: Sump drain thread

PostPosted: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 11:32 +0000
by notch000
sorry I get you now, This sounds like a great idea
cheers