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Postby mx5ash » Sat, 06 Dec 2008 9:55 +0000

So think i have got Dll working right and done a power run.
Here is the resulting power graph
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I've been told the power loss from engine to wheel is 23bhp
So assuming everything is correct that would be
129bhp 118lb ft
From a 1.6 auto with link ecu, jackson racing cai, decat, ss exhaust from cat back.
So what ya reckon?
If anyone would like to look at my map and make suggestions then i can send it to you.
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Postby Steve » Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:31 +0000

cool! can you send on a screenshot of your car definitions?
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Postby franksm » Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:46 +0000

Hey Ash

23hp is the loss for a manual 5-speed. The transmission loss for an auto might actually be more - would be worth asking the US Powerlist or doing a search there.

What is the 'Contents weight: 264 lbs' ? ;-) Maybe post-Christmas it would be true, but not right now... I always left mine at the default, whatever that is
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Postby mx5ash » Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:50 +0000

Erm yeah post christmas....right yeah emmmm. Ok enough said about that.
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Will post car def in 2 mins.
Will try to find out the trans loss in a min
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Postby mx5ash » Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:57 +0000

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Postby franksm » Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:11 +0000

Looks like the average is 15% drivetrain loss for a manual, 20% drivetrain loss for an auto.

106hp at the wheels + 20% = 127hp at the engine.

Respectable :-) You are making 1.8-ish power from a 1.6, without the extra tax and insurance. Stick that to the Greens !

BTW what I do with power-runs is to do a run from 1200rpm to redline in one direction, save the datalogl; then do a power-run on the same road in the opposite direction. If you average the two results, you'll get a true figure (otherwise one direction might be skewed by being uphill or downhill)
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Postby mx5ash » Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:26 +0000

Cool. 8)
Will try out a few more power runs tommorow - if i get the car back together!!!
Frank could you open the files i sent you the other day?
You know in the zone settings is a minus number timing added against the benchmark?
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Postby Steve » Sun, 07 Dec 2008 12:15 +0000

Ash, I solved the text file formatting prob by opening the file and resaving it again in wordpad.
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Postby Stig » Sun, 07 Dec 2008 2:09 +0000

Hmmmm, I'd like to see what my 1.8 is doing?
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Postby mx5ash » Sun, 07 Dec 2008 8:27 +0000

Think we need to organise a dyno day some time in the new year. Know there is a crowd in waterford who do it. I'll find out about price to get a rough idea.
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Postby ger » Sun, 07 Dec 2008 9:31 +0000

rwhp is what counts or even better power to weight ratio, because of the variation in power loss in different cars between flywheel and wheels rwhp is more a more accurate measure of real world power.

A 200bhp car at 1400kg is 142 bhp/tonne if its 4 wheel it will drop even more power between flywheel and wheels.

Ash 106 rwhp or 129 bhp is very repectable for a 1.6 auto
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Postby Stig » Sun, 07 Dec 2008 9:41 +0000

mx5ash wrote:Think we need to organise a dyno day some time in the new year. Know there is a crowd in waterford who do it. I'll find out about price to get a rough idea.


that'd be cool Ash!
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Postby Fergus » Sun, 14 Dec 2008 7:35 +0000

I'd be on for a dyno day in the new year.
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Postby Geese » Thu, 19 Feb 2009 1:13 +0000

Here's a 0-100kmh of my car using my gps box. If anyone else wants a run done pm me and come up to dublin

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